On this week's show, Patrick Jehle and I talk our way through all of Casino. This episode's a long one. Enjoy!

Photo by Mark Miller.

In this week’s show, I talk to fiction writer Aimee Bender about the subterranean connections that literary fiction makes between one and oneself, and between one and others; the difficult epistemology of sanity; the possibility of fiction not driven by interpersonal conflict; and other subjects of interest.

Enjoy.